in the tough economy-- >> but the union job growth much. >> i'm going to stick to topic, but i don't want people to think because it's a right to work state. i'm telling you, it's not. and for a guy that's been at a couple of protests and strikes, my dad was a union guy i'm a big supporter of unions, particularly private sector unions, not public sector unions. >> neil: that's the point on the message, is why we have a stark correlation between non-- nonunion factory jobs growing, and union factory jobs. >> in a tough economy those jobs pay more than the $3 an hour you get when you're a nonunion worker and those jobs get cut first. >> neil: adam, what do you think of that. >> well, i don't think it's any shocker, first of all, that as we've already been saying that there's been a shift. this shift has been going on for a long time. and we could, at some point we'lltick a fork in the unions because clearly, they're dwindling. having said that, there's also no shock that these organizations are going to act in their self-interest. we could do whole shows on other sectors of the economy